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SG History 101

This month, I’d like to salute one of the truly great sounding quartets of all time, and whose lineage in southern gospel continues to this very day…the Weatherford Quartet!

1944 pic of Earl and Lily Fern
This famous and influential group had its’ beginnings toward the end of World War II…when Earl Weatherford, a native of Paoli, Oklahoma, was living in California and working in the shipyards near Long Beach. Young Earl was a true devotee of the male gospel quartet and the singing convention, having attended many such events in the Southwest. Since Earl loved quartet singing so much, and since so many new residents of California like himself were emigrants from other parts of the US because of the war effort, it followed that he would try to organize his own quartet.

So in 1944 he organized a group to audition for a radio show on KFOX in Long Beach…consisting of Earl on tenor, Harold Turman as lead, Grady Weston as baritone, and Bob Gillis as bass. The brand-new Weatherford Quartet not only passed the audition, but became popular quickly around Southern California.

Not only was the quartet gaining ground quickly, Earl himself was blessed in a wonderful way at one of the many afternoon singings that the quartet participated in. He met a beautiful 16-year old woman named Lily Fern Goble, the daughter of a Nazarene minister from Oklahoma who also had relocated to California. She had some training in singing schools, but this was her introduction to quartet style gospel music.

The young couple hit it off and within a year were married. Ever the teacher of proper singing, Earl taught his new wife to sing with “heavier tones” so that she could blend with men…perhaps not realizing at the time that he was preparing her for her eventual singing career. At this point, the Weatherford Quartet was still a part-time group…singing on weekends, and working regular jobs during the week.

(L-R)Front - Raye Roberson, Lily Fern Weatherford
(L-R)Rear - Les
Roberson, George Younce, and Earl Weatherford
Taken at WOWO Radio, Fort Wayne, Ind. (1952)
That was to change in just a few years…in 1949, Earl opted to make his quartet a full-time group. This caused a bit of upheaval in the group, most of the members choosing to cling to the security of their “day jobs”, which forced Earl to search for quick replacements. By this time, Lily had learned how to “blend with the men” and joined the group regularly after persuading Earl (ever the male quartet kind of guy) to stop getting replacements at tenor, which Lily had been filling in on since Turman left the group in 1945. Lily learned very well…to the point where she could sing the first tenor part quite comfortably. Audiences could scarcely discern the difference musically, and this characteristic gave the Weatherford Quartet its’ distinctive sound that it maintained through the years.

The quartet filled its’ other positions with another husband and wife couple, Les and Raye Roberson, who joined as lead and pianist respectively, and at bass they hired a 16-year old youngster from nearby South Gate, Armond Morales, who would spend the first 14 years of an illustrious career as the velvet-smooth bass singer for the Weatherford Quartet. The group was now ready to hit the road, touring the country in their 1948 Buick which pulled a one-wheel trailer!

The group opted for a new home base, to be closer to the center of the gospel music and at the same time, fulfill a new radio contract. They were blessed with a position on 50,000 watt AM powerhouse WOWO in Fort Wayne, Indiana. On good nights, the station could reach from coast-to-coast, making the Weatherford Quartet nationally popular and in demand for appearances far and wide.

But another war was on, this time in Korea, and during their stint in Fort Wayne, Armond Morales was drafted into the military. At around the same time, Raye Roberson became pregnant and decided to retire from traveling. Morales was replaced for the time being by George Younce, and Danny Koker replaced Raye.

Shortly afterward, the group was offered a position with a church in Akron, Ohio. Rex Humbard was preaching at an old, refurbished theater there, but had a desire to start a weekly TV program, and wanted a group to lead his music ministry. By 1953, WOWO decided to play records, and this left the Weatherford Quartet without a radio contract. So at that time, Earl accepted Humbard’s offer, and since he felt his music was primarily a ministry more so than mere entertainment, it seemed to fit the calling that Earl had in mind for the group.

(clockwise from top) - Henry Slaughter, Lily Fern Weatherford, Glen Payne, Armond Morales, and
Earl Weatherford(center)
(1959)
The move turned out to be fortuitous for both Humbard and the Weatherfords. The group was now singing from the stage of the beaufiful new Cathedral of Tomorrow…and was still going through the occasional personnel change. At that time, Jim Hamill joined for a while. And when Morales returned from the military, he resumed his duties as bass singer as Younce left. Les Roberson accepted an offer with the Oak Ridge Quartet, and his place was taken by a Texan who came over from the Stamps-Ozark Quartet, Glen Payne. Coker also departed during this period, and was replaced by Henry Slaughter.

The lineup now consisted of Earl, Lily, Glen Payne, Armond Morales, and Henry Slaughter. This lineup would remain intact for nearly eight years. They sang at Humbard’s church on Sunday, filmed TV on Mondays, and were left with the rest of the week to tend to their own business. As Humbard’s ministry grew, though, more demands were being placed upon the Weatherfords, who felt increasingly led to return to traveling the country.

Also during this time, the Weatherford Quartet recorded an album for RCA which is considered one of the great gospel albums of all time…”In The Garden”, which spotlighted the trademark smooth, close harmony of the group. Today, that 1958 album is still widely sought after by collectors.

Lily had taken time away from the group in the early 60s to spend time with a new son. Earl hired Bobby Clark to take her place while she was away, making the quartet the all-male group that Earl loved. But he and the fans loved Lily’s voice, too…and were quite happy when she returned by 1963.

Coker returned to the group as pianist after Slaughter resigned to lead the choir at the Cathedral of Tomorrow in early 1963…and as the year went on, the situation finally came to a head between Humbard’s increasing pressure on the Weatherfords to be on staff, and the group’s desire to travel and sing. Finally, Humbard called the group’s members into his office, and told them of his plans to have a full-time group at the church, and asked them who wanted to stay, and who wanted to go.

Glen Payne, Danny Coker, and Bobby Clark opted to stay with Humbard, and formed the Cathedral Trio…George Younce joined them shortly afterward from the Blue Ridge Quartet, and they stayed with Humbard until 1969….even keeping their name when they became a full-time traveling group. This was the now-famous Cathedral Quartet, and their subesquent sound was derived in many ways from the Weatherford Quartet.

As for Earl and Lily, they returned to the road with new lead singer Mack Evans, who had been with the Rangers Trio, and Jerry Evans, who joined on piano from the Couriers Quartet. But soon, Mack Evans would leave for the military, and Morales would accept an offer from Jake Hess to form the new Imperials Quartet. So by 1964, the Weatherford Quartet would have to retool.

More singers would come and go as the years went on, people like Ralph Drake, Bob Thacker, Fulton Nash, Roy Tremble, and many, many more. Despite all the changes, the one constant that always remained was the smooth harmony that Earl was ever the stickler for, and the marvelous alto of Lily Fern, who remains a great singer and trouper today, after all the years.

L-R: Steve, Earl, and Lily Fern Weatherford

The group continues today through Lily and her son, Steve, who joined in the 1980s in the same way his Mother did in the 1940s…by constantly haranguing Earl for the chance to sing in the family group. One day, in exasperation, Earl told Steve, “All right! Show us what you can do!” Steve did, and is keeping the Family heritage alive to this day.

Earl finally came full circle. And in the place where it all began…Long Beach, CA…Earl Weatherford answered the Lord’s final call and died on June 17. 1992. He and Lily Fern have both been enshrined in the SGMA Hall of Fame…Lily Fern in 1999, and Earl in 2000.

L-R: Lily Fern, Earl, and Steve Weatherford
And just as the Cathedral Quartet was “birthed” from the “womb” of the Weatherfords in 1963, so Legacy Five was born from the Cathedrals when that illustrious group retired in 2000. So in that sense, The Weatherfords’ musical “grandchildren” are today major forces in today’s southern gospel music, in the same manner as their “grandparents” were in the 1950s and 1960s.

Considering what Earl learned from those singing conventions of yore where he formed his own rather definite philosophies about what constituted proper quartet singing, it might be interesting if Earl could hear the southern gospel of today, and evaluate it. Regardless of what anyone feels about the state of southern gospel today, fans of the genre are pretty much in agreement that the Weatherford Quartet was among the most accomplished and influential groups in its’ history.

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  1.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/01/2005

    John-

    Once again, a great article. I enjoy reading your articles because I can always guarantee that I will learn something new. I'll try to remember to not get "so carried away!" Keep up the good work my friend.

  2.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/01/2005

    You could not have picked a better group to spotlight.
    The Weatherfords ahd as sweet a blend of voices as any group I have ever heard.

    Watching the Gaither video that had George and Glen join Earl and Lily Fern proved that, even then, they could sing as lyricallyt as ever.

    Keep them coming, John!!

    In HIM,
    Bill

  3.    MsJudy ~ 02/01/2005

    Great article John! Keep up the Great work! I really enjoy reading these and "learning" things.
    smile

  4.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/01/2005

    Great article John. The Weatherfords certainly have been industry standard setters.

  5.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/01/2005

    Great article, John! You always make me wish that I could have been there to hear these groups as they were growing. I had no idea that the Cathedrals came out of the Weatherfords. Very interesting!

  6.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/01/2005

    John-

    Great coverage of the development of the sound of the beloved Weatherfords. During those years it was our (Couriers) pleasure to share the stage countless times with Earl's great group. All you said about the way people loved the Weatherfords is true. Danny Koker, Bobby Clark, George Younce, Glen Payne, Armond Morales, Mack Evans, Jerry Evans, Vic Clay, Roy Tremble, Henry Slaughter and a long list of other former Weatherfords contributed in their time to the success of this highly polished group.

    Earl was just a normal guy who loved to sing about his Lord. Lily Fern was his companion and dependable singer, and they made a great team. I cherish the wonderful memories of working with them all.

    Steve is carrying on his father's legacy in the true Weatherford fashion. And he's treating his mom as the Queen Mother she really is.

    One of the treasures in my personal record collection is the Weatherford's RCA recording,"In The Garden". It raised the bar of excellence in the industry.

    Thanks for remembering this group who cleared the way for so many youngsters to follow. They may not realize it, but they owe much to the efforts and the example of the Weatherfords.

    Neil Enloe

  7.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/01/2005

    John, this is an excellent article on a tremendous group! I think Lily Fern is and always has been the greatest female vocalist in any genre. If this article has piqued your interest and curiosity, you need to get Lily Fern's autobiography, "With All my Heart" and the new book about the Weatherfords. They are both tremendous!

  8.    Jaynie Dillon - Jones ~ 02/02/2005

    John,

    The comprehensiveness and the clarity with which you write each column is astounding.

    The obvious passion you have for southern gospel music and its rich history flow from you, as if you are indeed divinely inspired, indeed serving as a mere conduit.

    God has blessed you with a gift to share with the world via the Internet.

    It is my hope that there will one day be a compilation of your work in book form (more likely a series of books) to create a permanently lasting legacy for you as you continue to write the story of the love of your life. --Jaynie

  9.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/02/2005

    John,
    Simply put, another great article!

    It was my pleasure to see the Weatherfords, in Winston-Salem, NC back in late 1962, I believe.
    They indeed did have a sweet sound, with Lili Fern and Armond Morales leading the way.
    They were at the GOGR several times in the 90's, and I miss seeing them, since they no longer appear there. I wasn't aware that Mack Evans sang with the Weatherfords. They have certainly had some of gospel music's greatest performers as a part of their group.
    Thanks, John, for your great decisions when selecting your monthly articles on the music I love best!

  10.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/02/2005

    John,
    Thanks for an informative article on a legendary group.

    Dean

  11.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/02/2005

    John,
    Another great informative article. Since I am fairly new to southern gosple music...it makes me with I could hear some of these old great groups! Thanks

    Donna

  12.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/05/2005

    John...

    i remember the weatherford's quartet when they sany in southern california many years ago...as a little boy i often told my mom, "i want to grow up and sing like those guys"...i've got an album of the weatherford's while at the cathedral of tomorrow with a tenor named, hoppy hopkins...i loved the way he sang "jesus hold my hand"...thanks for the memories...mac

  13.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/05/2005

    Great article about a great group..... and to think this group had 2 who would latter be part of the Imperials, Slaughter and Morales, and Payne,Younce, Coker and Clark who would be members of the Cathedrals.....

  14.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/11/2005

    John,
    I would like to use this forum to thank you for a very well written, ACCURATE article on the Weatherfords. Your facts, particularily regarding the members was exactly correct. Since your article ran, we have heard comments regarding George and Glen and their tenure in the group. For clarification to the readers, Glen Payne and George Younce never sang with the Weatherfords at the same time. Thanks again for the article....Lily Fern Weatherford

  15.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/24/2005

    A great article on the Weatherfords, however, I would like to make a correction:

    J.B. Watson (my brother) from Fresno, California was the bass singer who replaced Armond Morales when he left the group to go into military service (not George Younce).

    J.B. Watson sang bass for many years after leaving the Weatherfords, with a group in California known as the Chordsmen. J.B. went home to be with the Lord on February 15, 2005.

  16.    Inquirer1 ~ 02/25/2005

    Bernice, you know that my prayers and sympathies are with you on the passing of your brother. I remember J.B. very well, and he was a fine bass singer for many years.

    It is my understanding that J.B. may have been used as a fill-in for Armond after Armond had to leave abruptly...but that George was the "permanent" temporary replacement.

    Once again, Bernice, I am very happy to see you post here.

  17.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 03/14/2005

    Dear John,

    What a great article about Earl Weatherford and both the Weatherford and Cathedral Quartets. I have very fond memories of seeing the Weatherfords as a teenager. My parents and I would follow them around to the various local churches in PA. They were phenominal!I enjoyed reading about the history of the group. There was one singer not mentioned who was really good, they called him Hoppy. Could you possible tell me who he is and does he still sing? I enjoy seeing Glenn Payne and George in the Gaither Classic Gospels. God certainly has gained two greats in his heavenly choir, Glenn and Earl.

    God Bless You!

    Dee

  18.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 03/16/2005

    I recommend reading both Lily Fern's biography and the new book about the history of the Weatherfords.

  19.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 03/16/2005

    Hello, all. I am Lily Fern's granddaughter. I stumbled across this article and I must say I enjoyed reading it. I've heard it through the grapevine many times, as I'm sure you can imagine. I Just thought I would comment; I enjoyed the article.

    Megan

  20.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 03/16/2005

    Just seems rather interesting to consider the history of the Weatherfords, what they contributed to Gospel music, the high opinions of their peers as to the standard of excellence as set from them that Lily Fern has yet to receive a Dove???? Hummmmm There's got to be something wrong with that picture, don't you think? I will say this, knowing Lily, the Dove has never been a goal of hers. Her goal? Proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and that she has done well!! She will have a tremendous reward.

  21.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 03/20/2005

    I ENJOY YOUR WONDERFUL WRITE-UPS....

    I'M WONDERING AS TO THE WHEREABOUTS OF LES ROBERSON...WHEN I WAS A KID IN MISSOURI, I HEARD HIM WITH THE WETHERFORDS AT WOWO IN FT WAYNE...
    AND REMEMBER WHEN HE BRIEFLY SANG WITH THE STATESMEN....

    P.S. I SANG WITH THE MARKSMEN AND THE PLAINSMEN MANY YEARS AGO...THANKS FOR THE GOOD WRITE-UP YOU DID ON US.

  22.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 09/29/2007

    I would like to know where I can find CD's of the old Weatherford music. I used to have the records, but over the years have worn them out. Can you help me with this? Thanks so much!

  23.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 02/19/2008

    Great article. One correction - Bobby Clark did not replace Lily Fern as tenor. There was a gentleman from Lindale, Georgia, that sang after Lily Fern left the road - Bobby Clark took his place. I have read only one article that has given him credit for being with the Weatherfords. James Hopkins recorded several LP's while with the Weatherfords. The group at that time was Henry, Armond, Earl, Glen and James. James left the Weatherfords and moved back home and became an insurance salesman and church choir director. He is now deceased.

  24.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 07/20/2008

    Did anyone ever copy the Weatherfords' In the Garden to a disc or tape?

    Thank you for the information. I saw the Weatherfords in Akron in the old State Theatre before they went to the Cathedral of Tomorrow. Although I had been singing in numerous group all my life I had never heard such smoooooth harmony as Lily, Earl, and Armond produced. I sang with Henry Slaughter and Bill Gaither during a practice session at the Cathedral also. What a wonderful time we had. LP

  25.    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) ~ 06/11/2010

    Can you tell me where I can find the lyrics to "Warm Family Feeling"?
    Thank you.

  26.    Bart Smith ~ 08/03/2010

    Solve.
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    Linda and Dave leave simultaneously from the same starting point biking in opposite directions. Linda bikes at 7 miles per hour and Dave bikes at 10 miles per hour. How long will it be until they are 22 miles apart from each other?
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