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02 Jul 2008
Southern Gospel Music vs. Bizarro Southern Gospel Music
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OK, Nick, why don't you go first? you are willing to name some "professionals" but are you willing to do what you advise in your article? How about naming 2 "amateurs" in each of those categories, Artists, Promoters, Booking Agents, Recording Studios, Magazines and Organizations. Surely you wouldn't ask us to do something you are not willing to do?
Commented by On 07/02/2008
Look at any other genre of music, and you have SEPARATION and LEVELS (although, thanks to shows like "American Idol" and "Nashville Star," the levels are becoming a little more blurred).
In country music, you have your local/regional artists who play the bars and festivals and release bargain basement custom records. They'd NEVER be on the Opry, and the only record deal they'd have would be through their own label they made up. Occasionally, they'll open for a national act, but they hardly EVER interact with the "big dogs." Not only that, but the passion, and the DISCIPLINE is simply not there in gospel music anymore. Group members drive in from all corners of the state, load up and go sing. Any practicing is done in a sound check, if at all. Regularly-scheduled practices simply don't happen. I've played in a several local bands here in town, and their practice is a discipline, often lasting several hours, and picking apart each song.
Commented by Kyle On 07/02/2008
The article is exactly right. In many cases, in fact most cases the folks who come out to see the pros who do it for a living and calling put a dollar or two in the plate thinking they have done a good deed. You may do that for a local group but not for a group who makes a living at it. If people do not start putting a decent amount in the offering plate, it will be local groups only. After all, they get the good songs from the pros to butcher up. Folks are only supporting a handful of groups now.
Commented by On 07/02/2008
Hey.. Jim2, I'm also curious also about Nick naming names...but being the gentleman he is, I doubt he would use this forum to do so. I believe he meant that in the day to day interaction between INDUSTRY professionals there should be a willingness to admit and confront the truth.
Isn't that what he said? To quote him, "We allow representatives of these companies to join our various organizations, sit on boards, attend meetings, and vote on matters of great importance to our industry. What we should be doing is identifying these folks and calling their hand. “Hey you, yes you… your company, your magazine, your station, your group, your organization is doing things that are damaging to our industry. You and those like you are not welcome here. Please leave!It is not right for companies and individuals who damage our industry to receive recognition from the professionals. By turning the other cheek to their unscrupulous business practices we are allowing them access to our side of the fence, when what we should be doing is throwing the bums out." THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN SIMPLY SLANDERING SOMEONE ON A WEBSITE. Nick is too much of a nice guy to be that mean.... though it would be fun to read.
Commented by On 07/02/2008
OH.. by the way.. EXCELLENT article Nick.
Commented by On 07/02/2008
Yet another great article Nick!
I would say that from an amateur standpoint there are two divisions as well: "visionary" and "clueless". This is where there is a far greater discrepancy between talented and non-talented. The "visionary" has an idea of what quality should be and strives to obtain that quality. The "visionary" understands where he is at and seeks outside help to improve. These "visionary" amateurs are necessary to minister to the small to mid-size churches that cannot afford the "professionals". The "visionaries" are necessary to help the small to mid-size churches stay connected to what is happening in SG. The "visionaries" are the bridge for many who don't know about SG to understand that it is more than "The Heavenly Highway Hymns." The "clueless" go to open mics and have the elderly lady tell them how wonderful they are when they don't quite reach that high note. The "clueless" refuse any outside advice because somehow they manage to maintain a "schedule" and think they are fine. The "clueless" trio has nice individual sound but seldom fill a complete triad. The "clueless" quartet has good pieces but doesn't know how to get the most out of their parts to make a solid group yet don't seek the outside help to improve. They have their own studio and record but do not use an outside ear to make much needed adjustments. It is the "clueless" with enough money to buy their way into a "contract" and give the "visionaries" who hold out for the real deal at the right time a bad name. Is it really a "contract" if you are the one doing all the giving? This is the BIGGEST issue we face when trying to reach new congregations. They have had such horrible experiences they just don't want to take the chance with another group. We work hard to make our demo packet look professional, our music sound professional, and our stage presentation appear professional. You could call me a "visionista" who would like to eliminate this other group for the betterment of SG. Any ideas?
Commented by Leebob On 07/03/2008
JJ,
I'll admit I am not a faithful reader of this site, but it seems that every time I have read one of Nick's articles, it is about the same thing (not that there is anything wrong with professionalism and accountability) and I applaud him for his consistency and commitment to excellence in the industry. That being said, he also constantly refers to these "phantom" evil people, an believe me, I've heard enough poorly produced bad singers to know it's true. But face it, the folks who are in it just to make money off of the newbies are not going to be fazed by a stern talking to and a finger waved in their face. If it's Lighthouse promotions, then say it's Lighthouse, if it's Heritage or Earl or SueAnn, say it. (I'm not an insider, so I just wrote some names I've heard, but Nick must know, or he wouldn't be harping on it for lo these many months) I'm not asking him to slander anyone, and I understand if that is the fear in this public forum, but I always thought if it was true, it wasn't slander.
Commented by On 07/03/2008
Hey Nick,
Just so will know, this is Lacy with The Glorymen. I always read your posts on this website. I will say I still think of a lot of you. But I feel I have to respond to this article. Let me say when we perform live, I have abosolutely no problem getting on stage with anyone, I don't care who they are. Now when you get into the studio, things are different and many flaws are revealed when you are recording. However, if the producer does what he is supposed to do, these flaws can be corrected. In 2005 we decided to record with Song Garden Music Group because you were the VP. That was our deciding factor. When the recording was completed, we never were satisfied. I listened to the finished product one time and have never listened to it again. That is how disappointing it was. I have read many of your articles since that time and the striking thing is when you say don't allow this particular event to occur, it is exactly what you did to us. After much prayer and conversation with my right arm, Wayne, we decided to stay with Song Garden after you left. I will have to say it is the best decision we have made to this date. We just completed a new project with Song Garden on their Grapevine Label. David Staton produced the project and while I will say we had many hurdles to overcome, the final product was fantastic. Just to show the difference, the first project we did, that you produced, I have never listened to it again. The project David just produced, I can't quit listening to it, and it just the rough mix, it is not the completed mix. I can't hardly wait until we get it back. Also the songs, they are from many different writers. They are not songs that were given to several different artists to record, resulting in different groups with one label recording the same songs. Know what I mean? Nick, while I still think a lot of you, I think you need to examine what you are saying, and practice what you preach. The main difference between the first project we did with Song Garden and the one we just completed is when you were there, it seems all you were interested in was the money. The project we just completed with David Staton, he is interested in the artist. There in lies a major difference. That is why, in my opinion there is a difference in "Professional" and "Amateur" groups. We all, many times, have the same abilities, it is what the producer can make you do that makes the difference. Nick, I don't mean this ugly but xometimes we need to practice what we preach. Lacy
Commented by On 07/03/2008
I hate to see the kind of un-Christlike post that Lacy Pittman just posted. He closes it by saying, "I don't mean to be ugly", but what part of the post was NOT ugly, Lacy?
I think that Lacy was trying to be mean spirited. And who really cares that Lacy like David Staton better? What does that have to do with this column or the response? It's evident that Lacy has an ax to grind.. or maybe someone at Song Garden does. And I'll say that I find Nick to be EXACTLY the opposite of the way Lacy describes him. I guess beauty - or lack of it - is in the eye of the beholder. I don't mean to be ugly, Lacy, but if you held and hold these things against Nick.. why didn't you email him privately? That would have been the Christlike thing to do.
Commented by On 07/03/2008
Having been involved in SGM for several years, I readily agree with Mr. Bruno. There are numerous groups and individuals performing at a sub-standard level and yet have a ultra-glamourized view of themselves that is beyond comprehension. I have become so weary working with individuals who have little, if any, musical knowledge, not to mention talent. I have friends who refuse to listen to SGM because of this and have turned to contemporary music exclusively. I continue to support many of the wonderful groups out there such as the Hoppers, Booth Brothers, etc.. My earnest prayer for SGM is they will raise the standard.
Commented by On 07/03/2008
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